Q: (TK) Are we asking all the wrong questions here?
A: There are no such.
Q: (TK) But what can... are there questions you can ask, and answers you can get that will make a difference one way or the other?
A: Ask.Suggest more questions about the goings on at underground facilities. Jan and Terry were visitors involuntary when went to Albuquerque and Las Vegas!
Q: (J) Oh, really! (T) We were in a front door of an underground base. We were in Carlsbad Caverns, and I know that there's a government facility at the other end of it, and they won't talk about it. You're talking about Carlsbad?
A: Abducted.
Q: (T): When we were in Albuquerque?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) When we were in Las Vegas, also?
A: Met alien there. Barfly.
Q: (T): Ohhhhh... (J) I know exactly what you are talking about.
A: Disguised humanoid gray species four. Rigelian. Orion union STS.
Q: (T) Why did he talk to us? Why did he approach us?
A: Spying on you and aural frequency reading, had you not been as strong, would have suffered permanent abduction because of your studies
Q: (L) What is there about strength that makes one inaccessible to permanent abduction?
A: Strength is of character, i.e. if STO candidate, not likely to be victim.
Q: (L) Not likely to be victim... OK, but what.... but what is the thing inside one that stops them... I mean, is this something that is a core ingredient of certain human beings? Is this like something inside them that blocks this manipulation and victimization?
A: Soul pattern.
Q: (L) So in other words, there is something about us, or within us, that literally they cannot touch or harm, is that correct?
A: Basically, but difficult to facilitate.
Q: (L) OK, in other words, this is something that is in us, that creates an inherent barrier, but not necessarily something that we can, at this level of density, reach in, grab out as a weapon, and wave around, as in facilitate?
A: Can, but intricate to do consciously.
Q: (L) Is this a state of focused awareness, whole body awareness, internal and external, basically whole body awareness...
A: Helpful.
Q: (L) Is there something we can do to develop this to the highest degree possible, while in these bodies, in this density?
A: Wait for 4.
Q: (L) Wait for 4? 4th density?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) It's a "do", it's an involuntary, it's there, it works when it needs to work. Is this the idea?
A: Network western experiences for learning purposes please. Knowledge is protection.
[Briefly, Terry related the story where he and Jan met the barfly at Vegas World, after having gone downtown to get their marriage license. They had taken a taxi to City Hall, and foolishly decided to walk back to the Strip, in 116 degree weather. They made it as far south as Vegas World, and stopped at the bar inside to cool off. Jan was close to heat prostration, and the barmaid gave her glasses of iced water and an iced towel to put on her neck. They were getting ready to go back out and hail a cab back to Bally's, when they were approached by the "Barfly," who started asking all sorts of personal questions, and seemed to be acting drunk when he wasn't really intoxicated. He became belligerent when Terry refused to show him his Florida drivers license, but switched to disorientation when Terry made the statement "We don't have a problem here, do we?!" While staring the guy down and putting the force of his personality behind the question/statement.]
Q: (L) In this story that Terry has just recounted, what instant represents the turning point of resistance?
A: The statement.
Q: (T) "We don't have a problem, here, do we?! Everything's cool, everything's OK! I'll buy you a beer?"
A: Yes.
Q: (T): Because that's when he got confused... He was escalating this to a point, and I don't know, it just came to me that the best way to do this was to just stop it right there...
A: Grays and their associates are thrown off by energy flow diversions or thought pattern interruptions.
Q: (T) Another thing that comes to mind while I'm thinking about it, before it turned ugly, he was leading up to going someplace. He was leading up toward, "We ought to get together and go someplace." I think that's when I really shut the whole thing off. (L) OK, now, in this episode where Terry and Jan were taken to an underground base, can you identify the location of the underground facility?
A: Soccoro, NM
Q: (L) OK, what was done to them when they were in this underground facility?
A: Quick exam.
Q: (T) Which of the nights in Albuquerque was it we were taken?
A: Second.
Q: (T) We got there Friday afternoon, that would have been Saturday... (L) Who was in charge of this base, this facility? What group?
A: Orion union STS.
Q: (T) Did we get taken to the base because we happened to be close by at the time when they grabbed us? Was it an opportunity for them?
A: Close.
Q: (T) Did they know we were coming out there?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Why did they follow up with a spy afterwards?
A: Test.
Q: (T) You mean that what they were looking at was to see whether we were STS or STO?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) And if they had been permanently abducted at that point in time, what would have happened to them?
A: Body part utilization.
Q: (TK) Basically, what that means is that you wouldn't have been any good to them as a person, but the parts would have been all right. (L) I do have an idea about that. Is this what Michael Topper was writing about in his article where he talks about the "obedience factor" of the STS? If they can get you to obey something, you have given your permission?
A: Close.
So, that was a lot of information to digest at one time. But, we came back to it again briefly not long after.
Q: (L) The other night, when we were talking about the underground laboratories and the taking of the MIA and KIA individuals from W.W.II, that would seem to imply that the underground tunnel system and the alien activity has been going on there has been going on a lot longer than since 1947, is this correct?
A: Yes, but in much less intensive form.
Q: (L) OK, it's gotten a lot more intensive since 1947 or thereabouts. Well, the thing that I want to know: is there any relationship between these underground laboratories and facilities and our cultural concept of Hell
A: Not in such a simplistic sense.
Q: (L) Well, I'm just curious as to whether the concept of Hell being underground, where people were tortured and worked on and all kinds of miseries going on arose from some people who escaped from, or psychically intuited...
A: Link, but not unified.
Q: (L) Is there a Hell?
Q: (L) What I want to know, is this tunnel that's under the house, which you have said is straight down under my house, is it a tunnel... is there like a laboratory under the house, or is it just a tunnel that's used for traveling from one facility to another?
A: Closer to latter.
Q: (L) Does the tunnel under my house go to Anclote base?
A: The base at Anclote is a Portal.
Q: (L) One of the abductees I worked with gave some interesting information under hypnosis. I suggeste to here that she could travel a mind link to read the minds of the aliens, and ask them, or inquire of them what the purpose of the implants were, the response she got was that it was like connecting a bunch of speakers, and once all the speakers were connected, then the stereo was turned on. What does this mean?
A: Unit group mind. Activation.
Q: (L) So what will happen when they, as she said, turn on the stereo?
A: Wait ands See.
Q: (L) Well, earlier today I was thinking to myself that they way I feel right now must be very similar to the way animals in the forest feel on the opening day of hunting season. I mean, it's like every so many thousands of years, it's hunting season on planet Earth.
A: You are aware, 2nd density is not.
Q: (L) Is it still, in a sense, like hunting season? Are they just here... I mean, according to this Matrix material, they plan on decimating our entire planet, either with disease, or taking over their bodies...
A: Some is disinformation.
It was about six months before we came back to the subject, and again, my brother was a guest. And, again, the information was startling. We had another guest, a friend who had spent some time in Army Intelligence many years prior to this time. I have to say in advance here, that my level of "acceptance" of incredible material was stretched to the limit in both the previous session and this one that follows!
Q: (L) One of the things we talked about the last time Tom was here was the underground base issue and military interference in civilian affairs and civilian interface with military affairs. One of the questions we were dealing with was the use of warfare to create situations in which bodies could be taken...
A: Warfare has many "uses."
Q: (L) Could you list for us some of the most common uses of warfare?
A: Generation of environment to facilitate inconspicuous replacement of gene pool. Factors in paradigm shift through stimulation of conception activity, replacement of key personnel according to frequency vibration prereadings...
Q: (L) 'Replacement of key personnel according to frequency vibration pre-readings...' Okay: do you mean to say that war...
A: Creates "environment" for unnoticed genetic modifications because of greatly heightened exchange of both physical and ethereal factors.
Q: (L) What do you mean by "replacement of key personnel?" Key personnel according to whose definition?
A: 4th density STS.
Q: (L) Are these key personnel human?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) When you say replacement, do you mean something as simple as someone dying, such as a head of state, and being replaced by another person who comes to power? That would be the simplest scenario that would fit this explanation.
A: Your scenario is not simple.
Q: (L) I mean simple in terms of the machinations...
A: Both.
Q: (L) Would it also be that key personnel could also be replaced as in duplication as you have described previously?
A: Yes. And removing to secret activity realm. Enough wars have taken place to effectively create entire new "underground race" of humans, both from direct capture followed by "reeducation," and spawning activity using these persons and others.
Q: (L) What do you mean by spawning activity?
A: Those captured have reproduced offspring, these never having seen your world.
Q: (L) Are you saying... (TK) They have given birth and these children have never seen our world... (L) How can an entire race of people, or groups of people, live under the surface of this planet, without the whole 6 billion of the rest of us on top, or at least a large number, realizing that there is anything going on? This is so wild an idea...
A: No. How much space exists underground, as opposed to that on the surface?
Q: (L) A lot, I suppose. You aren't saying that the earth is hollow, are you?
A: No, not exactly.
Q: (L) Well, how deep is the deepest of these underground cities?
A: 3,108 miles.
Q: (L) That's pretty deep! But wouldn't it be too hot at that depth?
A: No. Temperature averages 68 degrees F.
Q: (TK) That's pretty comfortable! (L) How do they have light?
A: Magnetic resonance.
Q: (L) Well, aren't they subject to being crushed by earthquakes?
A: No, earthquakes are not felt deep underground!!
Q: (TK) Is any of this under the ocean?
A: Yes.
Q: (TK) Well, we'll never explore all of what is under the ocean. (L) It just staggers the mind to think about it. What do they want these people for?
A: To replace you.
Q: (TK) And why? Because they can control them better. Right?
A: Completely.
Q: (L) Do these people being bred and raised in these underground cities have souls?
A: Yes, most.
Q: (TK) Are they just like us only raised differently?
A: More complicated than that.
Q: (L) How long have they been doing this?
A: 14,000 years, approximately.
Q: (L) If they have been doing it that long, obviously the ones they have taken at the beginning have croaked and are of no use to replace anybody on the earth unless they have been replacing people from time to time for various reasons...
A: No, their technology makes yours look like Neanderthal by comparison! Hibernation tubes... One heartbeat per hour, for example.
Q: (TH) That means that for every year we live, they would live 4200 years... (L) Does any of this have anything to do with that crazy pit at Oak Island where you have said a Remolecularizer is buried?
A: In an offhand way.
Q: (L) How do we fit into all of this? (TK) We don't!
A: You have been the "preparation committee."
Q: (L) What have we been doing? Is it part of the plan for us to destroy the planet, destroy the ozone layer, pollute the seas and so forth to make it more habitable for them?
A: Those things are inconsequential and easily repaired.
Q: (TK) With their technology, they can fix all of that. (L) This is really horrible, you know! To think of all this... (TK) Apparently, from what I am understanding, they can't just come in and wipe us out and replace us, because the 'rules' won't allow it.
A: Yet the natural cycles within the framework of the natural order of things will allow all these things to fall into place.
Q: (L) Is there some law within the realm of these beings, sort of like the law of gravity, that prevents them from just coming in and taking over?
A: No.
Q: (TK) I don't think it is like the law of gravity...
A: What "law" is there that inhibits you from manipulating 2nd density beings at will?!?
Q: (L) Well, I don't go out and deliberately hurt or manipulate anything or anybody. (TK) Of course, in our handling of these 'critters,' we are conserving them in some ways so that we will have an ongoing food supply... I think there are rules to the game. It's like a chess game. They can't just come in and change things, it has to progress in some way. But, there are loopholes and they can sneak in and manipulate and get away with some things... (TH) Then, there aren't rules - there are just guidelines.
A: Two important points there: 1) When we said "you," we meant 3rd density collectively. 2) You missed our statement about the natural cycle and order of things almost completely. We suggest you reread and ponder... Also, what if your race is manipulated to destroy yourselves, or, just hang around until the next natural cataclysm?
Q: (TK) Well, it seems like there is another side that is trying to prevent them from gaining control. (L) Well, from what I understand, the only thing the good guys are able to do is, because of free will, they have to wait to be asked for help, and the only they thing they can really do is give information. (F) Well, this is valuable if used by the right people at the right time. (TK) You have to come up with the right questions, too. You have to have enough information to be able to come up with the right questions. I am sure the information is there. You have one group with all these people underground and they want to take over the planet. This group likes being 4th density - they don't want to advance. They want to block advancement. Then, you have the group that want to advance, they want the natural order to proceed. This negative group wants to stay there and keep everyone they can there. (L) And because they deplete themselves and diminish in numbers, they keep having to supply their needs and existence. (TK) If, by some odd chance, the earth is the only place where people come to advance, then sooner or later it is going to stop, if these other guys take over, then it will just stop... implode. (TH) I know! The earth is a 4th density theme park! (L) We already thought of that... we all have an 'E' ticket ride! Is what I am saying close to the truth?
A: Yes. Total truth is elusive.
Q: (TK) So, what I said was the gist of what is going on here. So, we have to figure out what we are supposed to do so that the earth can be maintained...
A: You will do what you will do.
Q: (TK) This is true.
A: Do you, in general, control 2nd density beings on earth?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: So, what is "fair" about that?
Q: (L) Nothing.
A: Okay, so what is the difference?!?!???
Q: (TK) So, basically, we control 2nd density, and 4th density controls us. There are the good guys and bad guys. (L) And we will do what we will do. Either we choose to align ourselves with the good guys, or with the bad guys.
A: It's up to you.
Q: (TK) However, if too many people align themselves with the bad guys, then the balance tips in their favor, and there is no more advancement, so there has to be education so that people will know...
A: Tom, you are close, but you are missing the point.
Q: (L) What is the point?
A: The point is, there "has to be" nothing. You will do what you will do. You choose. We have told you this repeatedly, but you still suffer from self-centered perspective.
Q: (TK) Everybody is worried about themselves. They all want to be saved and not worry about others.
A: More to the point, everybody in an STS realm views themselves as somehow "special, chosen, or protected." This is simply not so!!
Q: (TK) What is going to happen, is going to happen. The people...
A: The body does not matter. It is the soul that either progresses or digresses!
Q: (L) So, in other words, we could just sit around and live our lives and have a good time and not worry about a damn thing. It's our choices?
A: Yes.
Q: (TK) The point is it's going to happen...
A: But, nobody is there to intervene on your behalf as many would like to believe.
Q: (L) So, we are here on this planet, and we will either make it or we won't, just like Dorothy and Toto in Oz, based on our own ability to figure it out, to overcome the odds, the witch, monkeys and soldiers... (TK) Maybe what they are trying to do is give people the information, or make the information available so that people can make the choice, do they want to stay...
A: We are not "trying" to do anything. We are here to answer questions if asked. We cannot interfere.
Q: (TK) Yes, the non-interference idea is pretty clear and understandable. So, they cannot interfere...
A: And, even when we answer, you may not believe, it is up to you!
Q: (L) So, we are really on our own!
A: You always have been, and so have we, and all others, too!!
Q: (TK) I guess then, it is a matter of asking the right questions so that you will know what course of action to take. I mean, do you want to advance? Do you want to go to 4th density? Or do you want to go higher? Or do you want to stay here? How can you make an informed choice if you don't know the true conditions and what your options are? (L) Is it that the religions that have been generated and foisted on the human race, have been designed to give people a feeling of complacency or faith in something outside themselves, and that this prevents them from seeking knowledge, opening their eyes, facing the facts of their existence, and therefore keeps them in bondage?
A: It's just obstacles, as always. You employ those too, for your 2nd density friends!!
Q: (TK) What state of mind do you have to have to want to advance? (F) Well, you know you are on the path when you can see that the words don't match the facts of life. Think of all the people you have met with whom you may have had a philosophical conversation. How many will say: Oh, all I need is the Bible. That's all I pay any attention to. (TK) I don't have many philosophical conversations with people because I rarely agree with anything that is said. (F) Well, you must have decided on this because you tried it and found it didn't work. (TK) I have a real problem... yes, the Bible has been around for a long time, and religion has been around for a long time... but I have a real problem believing something that is so obviously produced by humans with agendas of their own! (F) But most people that you tell that to will say: Oh, no! People didn't write the Bible, God did! Or, they could be a complete athiest and believe only in the religion of science. (TK) I believe that a person is supposed to live by rules and treat people with respect and honor life... and some of the ideas of religion are good... but they just go over the edge. (F) That is how they suck people in. Mix lies with the truth. (L) Yes, a lie sandwiched between two truths makes it easier to swallow. (F) Yes, if it was ALL false, the vast majority of people would have figured it out immediately. Or, very quickly. (TK) The vast majority don't care. They just want to be led like sheep. They don't want any responsibility. (F) And what happens to the vast majority of cattle? They munch away in their pasture until time to get in the truck to go to the butcher. (TK) Well, after all my years in the military, I have gotten to the point that I just don't trust anybody with authority. (F) And, if you talk to the religious types, they will say: Oh, I don't have any answers... I just follow the Bible. (L) Not only do they not have any answers, they don't have any questions, either. And, I think that is the clue. The people who are still asking questions after wading through all the religions and mystical mumbo-jumbo. The ones who think they have found the ultimate answer are - well - lunch! (TK) The whole purpose of life, it seems to me, is to obtain knowledge and advance. You are stuck on this level until you figure it out. But what are you supposed to figure out? (L) I think that the knowing is the doing. (TH) "Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." It's in the Bible!!! (L) Is the knowing the key?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) I think that knowing changes your frequency. Is that true?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) The acknowledging and the seeing?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What did they tell us once... it's not where you are, but who you are and what you see that counts. (TK) So, we aren't gonna change what happens. There is no way we can have any appreciable effect on the underground armies... it is just a matter of changing ourselves and whoever else we can share with.
A: Correct, the cow has no effect on the health of the livestock industry...
Q: (TK) The cow has no effect on the herd. One cow doesn't... or even a lot of cows. (F) But there might be one or two cows that follow one that breaks out of the herd. (TK) Yes, you might be able to affect somebody else's life, but not the whole group. So, worrying about the underground stuff, is immaterial. (L) But, knowing about it is.
This next extract is interesting because the guest present was an abductee/hypnosis client. This woman was, in fact, my "first" abduction case as described in "Amazing Grace." At the time, as described, I was VERY skeptical of UFO/Alien possibilities. During the session, as it turned out, numerous flying black boomerangs were sighted in my area, including one that must have been right over my house.
After the session in question, P never scheduled another. She was so skeptical herself, even after hearing herself describe something anomalous on video tape.
Several years went by, and I had lost complete touch with her until one day I wanted to have some booklets copied and I stopped in a local print shop that I had often patronized. I was completely surprised to learn that P had recently purchased the business! We renewed our acquaintance and, since the booklets I wanted copied had to do with "alien" issues, we began to discuss it again. It was at this point that she revealed that her husband, who she had only previously described as "retired," was a physicist who had been employed by the U.S. Government. P, herself, had been employed by the governement as well and claimed to have had a security clearance of some sort.
After bringing her up to speed as to the events of our lives after the fateful night she was under hypnosis in my house, she asked to attend a session and the following is the result.
Q: (L) Now, with all of us here, we would like to ask why the black, flying boomerangs showed up on the night P first came for hypnosis? The first thing we thought about it was that this was a, if not necessarily rare, at least rarely observed type of craft, and the event itself was rare... is this correct?
A: It is rare.
Q: (L) If it is rare for it to occur in response to a hypnosis session, which person were the UFO's particularly interested in?
A: It was not a person, but information that is hidden in the subconscious memory of P. To monitor what would be revealed.
Q: (L) They wanted to see if anything would be revealed about their abductions of her?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay, since she is here, can we ask who abducted her?
A: Grays.
Q: (L) How many times has she been abducted?
A: 4. Snow scene was only 3rd density abduction. Abduction which occurred there was strictly physical.
Q: (L) Okay, the abduction that occurred in the snow was a physical abduction. Perhaps the others were not.
A: The others were 4th density. 3rd density abduction only occurs rarely, and is of great import.
Q: (P) Was my son, who was accompanying me, also abducted?
A: Frozen.
Q: (L) Why did they want Pat so bad that they would take her physically?
A: Do you have any ideas?
Q: (L) Yes, I have ideas. Maybe Pat has ideas and knowledge that she could access that would expose these beings?
A: But real reason is more fundamental. Government proximities!
Q: (L) Oh! Someone was telling me earlier that people who are connected to someone working for the government tend to be abducted more. But, just because P was married to a scientist who worked at JPL doesn't mean she knew anything. Does she know something?
A: Not what she knew. Because of proximity to Consortium activity. Implanted for possible future activation.
Q: (P) Was this related to what was going on under the mountain?
A: Not locator, personnel are factored.
Q: (L) Okay, it is not where you were so much as who you were in contact with.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was it her husband?
A: Perhaps.
Q: (L) Maybe that is why there is a higher rate of abduction among family members of government employees, so that they can be activated or controlled? (P) But my husband wasn't really working on anything secret.
A: He had access to sensitive facilities.
Q: (L) Did he have a security clearance or was he friends with others who did? (P) I had a security clearance. (L) So, P had an implant put in. An actual, physical implant. Where is it?
A: Behind sinus cavity.
Q: (L) What is this implant designed to do?
A: Activate behavioral control reflex and thought pattern generation and alteration.
Q: (P) Is that why I can't remember anything?
A: Some.
Q: (L) So, can I say that this UFO appeared over my house on the night P was under hypnosis, to reinforce the implant so that she would not be able...
A: To monitor.
Q: (L) If P had revealed the details of her abduction, would there have been any repercussions?
A: Not in this case.
Q: (L) So, if P had gone to anyone for hypnosis, these craft would have appeared?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) You have already told us that this is extremely rare. What else was unusual? (P) Does this have anything to do with Camp David?
A: Not the issue, its personnel!
Q: (L) Was it that she knew someone or interacted with someone in particular?
A: Many others!
Q: (P) Do the planes have anything to do with it?
A: It is up to P, the extent she wishes to retrieve and divulge, the many unusual experiences that were met, by P, with unusual indifference.
Q: (P) The first thing unusual was the geographic location of our house. Directly West of us was the mountain that housed all the communications to be used in the event of nuclear war. We were 13 miles North of Camp David. And, while we lived there, many, many things took place at Camp David that were of global significance. And, we built a barn in 1982 and had bought the house in 1976, and never, in all the years that I lived there, did I ever notice these planes until we built the barn. If I had a stick in my hand, I could have touched them, that's how low they flew. Right over my barn. The same day every week. And there was always two of them, and they never had a single marking on them. And, they were propeller planes. And I wondered: what in the hell is this country doing flying planes, unmarked, propeller driven, and so low, over this area? This continued until we moved from that house. So, these planes came twice a week from 1982 until 1989. (L) What were these planes? Well, after the first couple of times, I sort of just said: "Well, there are the planes." So, what else is new?
A: Indifference.
Q: (P) I thought the planes had something to do with the mountain. Did they?
A: Maybe.
Q: (P) We knew they were flying under radar. Now, that I am thinking about this, nobody else ever talked about these planes. It was like we were the only people that ever saw them, or people who were at our house saw them too. My best friend who lived right up the road never saw them. I asked her: "Did you see the planes?" and she said "What planes?" I mean, she was seven acres away and nothing in between!
A: Unusual experiences mount!
Q: (P) V also noticed these things and he would always say - he was less indifferent than I was - he would say: "what in the hell are those planes and what are they doing?" Well, it didn't affect MY life, except that I was damn mad that it upset my horses. But then, the horses got used to them too, and they became indifferent! [laughter] Well, they came so often, twice a week - "it's Wednesday, the planes will be here!"
A: More... continue probing...
Q: (P) The planes came from East to West, and in the West was the mountain...
A: Catoctin.
Q: (P) That is the name of the mountain. The tunnel where all these facilities were... under Catoctin Mountain. Camp David is near, too.
A: And MUCH ELSE! Mount Weather, Virginia. And why did you live in area... helicopters?
Q: (P) Is it because of Fort Detrick?
A: What brought you to Maryland?
Q: (P) Fort Detrick. (L) What does Mount Weather mean? (P) The underground tunnel - everybody in town called it The Tunnel - but there was nothing around there to ever give anybody the slightest clue as to what it was. In fact, I lived there for quite a long time before I knew it existed. And, on top of the mountain there was a weather station... (P) V was doing electron microscopy - cancer research.
A: REALLY?
Q: (P) It was a photographic lab.
A: Helicopters, Pat? We are asking you!
Q: (P) Well, the helicopters in Frederick went over our house every time the president was at Camp David. But, that was our house in Walkersville not in Emmetsburg. When we first moved to Maryland. Sometimes the helicopters were unmarked...
A: You see, P is resistant due to experiences, things don't "phase" her easily, programming, etc.
Q: (L) So, all of these things happening around her, the planes, the mountain, the helicopters... (P) But the helicopters, I knew it was the President either going to or coming from Camp David.
A: Resistant, not resisting.
Q: (L) Is the term "resistant" a clue?
A: All is a clue here!
Q: (L) Since P has only been abducted 4 times, can this mean that she is resistant to that?
A: No.
Q: (P) Isn't that just my personality, that if it doesn't affect me I don't bother with it?
A: Yes.
Q: (P) I don't get bothered about things that...
A: Shoot somebody in front of P, and she says: "Oh well, that's life" so, to discover spectacular things, one must be patient and probe carefully, no hasty assumptions, please!! There is to be retrieved, revealed, studied.
Q: (P) Well, the helicopters went back and forth to Camp David. The President was supposed to be in them. And his entourage. There was only 3 helicopters. (L) Are these the helicopters referred to?
A: No. Let P digest it, and report back later.
Q: (L) At the time we had all those sightings around here on the night we did that session with P, why did so many other people see them?
A: Window was "blasted."
Q: (P) I would like to know about the apparitions of the Virgin Mary at Conyers, GA, as well as this book "Mary's Message to the World" and all the other messages about the End Times that are coming out all over?
A: The forces at work here are far too clever to be accurately anticipated so easily. You never know what twists and turns will follow, and they are aware of prophetic and philosophical patterning and usually shift course to fool and discourage those who believe in fixed futures.
Well, needless to say, this whole session REALLY spooked P!
About a year later, the subject of underground bases came up again in a slightly different context.
