Paola Harris interviews Al Bielik ..

Paola: What was the Mauntalk project?

Bielik: That was a project that appeared between 1975 and 1983. It collapsed and was resurrected in 1987. It was run by the German Scientists that came over under operation paperclip. They worked for 20 years at Brookhaven National Laboratories and they were kicked out of there about 1967. While looking for a new home, they heard about Mauntalk and the projects out there. And they went out there. At that time it was still operated by the U.S. Military Air force. They were doing the research for SAGE radar project, over the horizon radar . When they got through with the testing, and they were in the process of shutting them down and the German scientists heard about it. The German Scientists said we would like to do some further research. we'd like to show you how to do things like win the next war by pushing a button. The military were very interested. So the scientists came in and the Military packed up and left and they were there until 1968 until 1983 when it collapsed and was resurrected for a few years in 1987 by the same German Scientists until the Air Force took it over 1991. In taking it the Air Force was concerned with the Hale-Bopp Comet problem. They knew about it before Dr. Hale and Dr Bopp ever know about it and they were doing the work to defect it which they did do successfully. The Air Force "Project Sky Pebbles" was the official name. The Air Force project in 1998 closed down and the Navy came in and took over about the summer of 1998 and they are there still in the underground. They cleaned off almost all of the old buildings with the exception of the radar tower and cleaned it up and it is a park now. So Mauntalk point on the surface is a park. Underground, it is still a military base being used for the Navy and nobody knows for what and nobody that I know of at this point has any knowledge of what they were doing and why they are there at the present time and a group of civilians working for them and have their own separate housing village.

Paola: The Montauk project has to do with time travel, right?

Bielik: It had to do with Time travel and Mind Control. The Montaulk boys came out of there originally and they were moved off that base to another areas down under all connected with every major city in the U.S. and major cities in Europe.

Paola: you know I am going to ask you this because I have to. How are you privy to this information. How do you know?

Bielik: Because I was part of it. I was part of the Mauntauk project and I was a major part of the Philadelphia experiment. I worked for the Mauntalk project for a number of years. I was a civilian. Originally when they put the SAGE system 28 radar towers around the periphery of the US and as they went to the next phase which was a higher powered system( Bemus Project), they could pick up a missile launched in Russia as it left the ground. The tower on long Island remained completely operative after the Military pulled out and the Germans took it over because to build their own systems. It was also done in conjunction with a group of aliens that the US government said would be part of the project to develop the time tunnel. We knew how to do time travel at that point but we did not know how to make a worm hole.

Paola: What year is this?

Bielik: Mauntalk became operational under the German control approximately in 1970 and became effective about 1976 until 1983.

Paola: I have to ask you about the Alien involvement. Do you know about the Alien Involvement or were you involved with the aliens.

Bielik: Mauntalk Point was called that because originally the Mauntalk Indians were there. They were kicked out by the US government about 1900. The Pyramids were torn down. I understand there were pyramids there. I understand that there are some people on the island who have pictures of it but I have not seen it myself.

Paola: have you seen the Aliens?

Bielik: yes at Mauntalk.

Paola: What were they? The human type aliens?

Bielik: no. They were a mixture of the human type as well as some others from all over including a Draco who was in charge of some others.

Paola: A Draco, is that a Reptilian type?

Bielik: A particular species of Alien who stands 7 feet tall. Some are winged, some are not. They are very heavy about 450 pounds. They are very intelligent and the one that was there was in charge of other aliens. They had appeared on the Eldridge deck in 1943 when we ripped a hole through the Fabric of space time and became part of the collaboration on time travel technology. They had said "We can show you how to create this worm hole".

Reptilian

Paola: Are you saying aliens were Involved with building time travel technology. In what way?

Bielik: You can do that simultaneously. You can build the equipment you can do that. We will show you what to build and how to build it.

Paola: what would be the benefit of their teaching us how to build time travel equiptment? What would be the benefit for them? what would they get out of it?

Bielik: What they got out of it was that they told the government that we have our agenda. We wish to use the station when it is working properly, we wish to use it for our own agenda. The government agreed with that. What our own agenda was happened on on August 12th 1983, when they locked up with the Eldridge, or the ship they called The Eldridge and in August 12th 1943 and they threw a hole in space time 40 years wide in which to let their own large ships through because their ships were in a war with somebody else and they wanted to get through to this Universe.

Paola: So was it like tearing a hole in a dimension to let them through. Is that part of the Philadelphia experiment or is it a spin off or did they know they were going to do that?

Bielik: They knew they were going to do that and they did it deliberately because they delayed the test for the second test for the Philadelphia experiment until 12 august 1943.It had to be on the 12th of August. Because the Earth has its own biorhythms... like the human Biorhythms. They all peak out like the Earth biorythm speak out, all four of them. The Earth's peak out on the 12th of August every 20 years, plus or minus half a day. That is 1943, 63, 83, 2003, 2023 have a synchronizing effect on certain affairs and certain matters. In the case of 12 August 83 we were conducting experiments. They were conducting the Mauntak experimentthe two experiments synchronized and locked in. That was done very deliberately not only to pull the Eldridge into Hyperspace but in order to produce a sort of worm hole effect but actually a breach in space time large enough for the aliens ships to get through.

Paola: Ok. You said alien ships plural so there are different alien ships and brands of aliens who want to get through that hole

Bielik: ... they could

Paola: You don't know which ones came through You don't know who was at war?

Bielik: I do not know.Possibly The government knew.

Paola: and this information came through having been part of that project.

Bielik: Yes! We found out some of the missing links afterwards... we jumped off the ship, we wound up in 1983 on the territory of Montauk and we were taken in to meet John Van Neumann and some of the other people and they told us quite a bit of what was going on but they themselves did not the alien connection causing the breech in space time but they knew the two experiments had locked up. Von Neumann told us that so we had to go back to the ship and destroy the equipment so the ship would return to its original starting point. We said we don't know how we got here, how can you send us to the decks of the Elkridge? They said no problem we can take control over space time. We can send you anyplace we want.

Paola: The government said this?.

Bielik: No. John Von Neumann said that. They did they sent us through the worn hole to the decks of the Elkridge.

Paola: They sent you through the worm hole?

Bielik: Myself and Duncan

Paola: How does that feel? Is that just being here one minute and gone the next...?

Bielik: The first trip you make can be quite nauseating and after that you sort of get used to it.

Paola: You get dizzy and nauseated and that kind of thing.. It is like traveling.

Bielik:, Well ,we knew we were being propelled through something. There a slight feeling when you go through a worm hole. We were a little nauseated not like the first time. but in any case we went back and we destroyed the equipment as directed and the ship returned to 1943 and we then saw the problem of the sailors buried in the steel deck and the bulkhead and Duncan took one look at this and he headed for the railing and jumped over and disappeared and went back to Montauk in the 80's and worked there and had some problems himself. But that was in the records we read later. After passage of normal time and Duncan no longer there, I became part of the Montauk project at a later date. Much later after they changed my identity from Ed Cameron to Al Bielik because I was there on Montauk as Al Bielik.

The Crew of the USS Eldridge

Paola: In other words Al Bielick-Ted Cameron. Wouldn't it be the other way around?

Bielik: They are both the same person. Except in 1953, the navy got tired of me and and wanted to find some way of getting rid of me without killing me because they knew it would cause enormous reactions and problems in terms of space time because they were afraid I had traveled so much in time that there would be a collapse in the space time continuum in the period where I had been and I had gone through so they decided they couldn't do that. So they cooked up a plot to age regress me, whitewash all my memories nine month old kid and send me back to another family in past to 1927 which were the Biellks and those were the only parents I knew for many other years.

Paola:That is amazing! With this time travel thing, what would you say was the time, the dates that the government was working with time travel?

Bielik: 1938.

Paola: With the Nazis Right?

Bielik: The Nazi's were working on it also but they never completely solved the problems. They solved the rest of them after they had been extracted from Germany at the end of WWII and brought to the United State under Operation Paperclip.

Paola: Those paperclip guys did a lot of things but colonel Philip Corso had the feeling that the aliens at Roswell were from the future coming back to warn us about Nuclear power and he believed that they were time travelers and he told me "Paola, we have discovered a Time machine". But I never knew what he was talking about. But he did bring us material on the Philadelphia Experiment. Is there an occasion when somebody has changed the time-space continuum that you know of and history has changed?

Bielik: Yes

Paola: Where would that be?

Bielik: I can think of two specific items. Number one, history says that the South lost the Civil war and they didn't. they won it! It was changed later by the use of the Montauk project or a different one, I am not sure. But they went back and changed history deliberately because I run into people who remember the fact that the South won the Civil War and some of the earlier text books said that and the Southerners believe that even when I was in high school And the second thing that turned up is "how well do you remembering the era of the German Nazis, the Swastika?" Which way did it point at the top? Which way did it appear to be rotating in your memory?

Paola: The right?

Bielik: It always used to point to the left. That was the Nazi symbol for years. It was a sacred symbol of certain Indians which they took and of course those tribes do not like that happening. They objected violently It was not adopted by the Nazi hierarchy pointing to left. Now it points to the right and I saw it happen on TV and I could not believe what I was seeing because it always pointed to left and suddenly pointing to the right. The textbooks have changed and the monuments or anything that showed the Nazi swastika, suddenly it is all pointing to the right. It changes everything even symbolically.

Paola: Colonel Corso said that certain events in time has been changed and we are in a altered timeline.

Bielik: We operate and live on what you might call a timeline. The time field is actually a closed loop ,it is a gigantic loop. If you go far enough forward in time, you will wind up crossing over and going into the past because it is a connecting link so to speak and it is a huge loop. I can not describe it as something physically in space but in terms of time, it is a huge loop. I do not know how many years are involved in it. But eventually the cross over, plus or minus the infinity point as it is called, you are in the past, the very ancient past in the galactic history an and if you keep going forward, you will eventually come up to our present time. It can be navigated with the proper time travel equipment. You can go forward or backwards. Some scientists today say maybe time travel forward is possible but it is not possible in reverse. That is absolute nonsense if you look at the equations correctly, you will see that you can go either way.

Paola: You can go either way. What I asked you specifically though instead of just the swastika, is there an occasion like the death of Kennedy where he was alive and he didn't get killed or of some person being here who should not be here. (see the paranormal factor in the rubrica).

Bielik: specifically no. I think it happened.

Paola: What Colonel Corso said is they came once in the Roswell incident.

Bielik: There were two ships involved and the other, due to the radar systems we had developed that was interfering with their navigation system.

Paola: But Corso said that he saw the ship ten years later 1957 in " Red Canyon" in an encounter. But what benefit is it for us to have " time travel technology.

Bielik: That is a very good question.I don't know as it has any real benefit.

Paola: It must or they would not do it!

Bielik: It is a toy to certain government groups because they can use it to travel through time and change history That is the principal reason it has been used. Of course other travelers from the future have come into our time and in particular THE WINGMAKERS out of the 28th century and they have contributed some technology. The premise is: That race of robots will come to the earth to take it over (the M51 group). basically if they can take that point in time in which they are about to discover the earth and clock the earth as such, that the ship goes on by and doesn't see it. They also are experimenting with sound as in the movie Stargate. All of that music was synthesized in their a computer. No human voice, no real instruments, they even replicated a 36 foot diameter vast base drum which does not exist now. I do not know if they have one in the future. All this was sent back and sent to the producers.

Paola: You said the benefit was to change history but would it not be beneficial to tear another hole in space and create another situation that would benefit the aliens. Don't they come through and travel through "worm holes" that go to other realities?

Bielik: That is possible. If the aliens were to come in and were knowledgeable about space time, Yes, they could rearrange some of our history for us that would make it more advantageous for themselves. I do not know which aliens have time travel technologies but I know the Pleadians do. We created wormholes with Montauk but the Ancients already had wormholes called "Stargates". This is all possible.

Paola Harris interviews Al Bielik ...

March 2005-11-17